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Earlier this week I wrote about my experience flying from NYC to Cleveland and watching a pair of gate agents argue with a pair of flight attendants and a mother flying with her infant, over her Doona.
I booked that Sunday-Monday trip 2 days beforehand.
I love using miles for aspirational trips, as that’s where the best value can be had for trips that you could otherwise not afford. We have used miles to fly in first class to 6 continents (well, 7 if you count the flight to a boat) and treasure those memories.
But you can also get great value out of your miles domestically.
For example, the cheapest last minute flight from Cleveland to NYC that Sunday was $400, or over $500 for a flight leaving after I could catch a Shacharis at home:
And the return flight was similarly priced as well:
So, of course. I looked at my mileage options.
You can do quick math to figure out the bank points needed, without having to open those sites. With a Sapphire Reserve you’ll get a value of 1.5 cents per point and with an AMEX Business Platinum Card you’ll get a value of 1.54 cents per point after the 35% points rebate. Divide the cost of a $950 round-trip flight by 1.5 to see that it would cost around 63K bank points for those flights.
What about airline miles?
American wanted 24,000 miles for a flight that would get me to NYC in time for the L’chaim:
Delta wanted 22.5K miles for an early-morning flight, or 50K miles for a flight at a reasonable time:
United wanted 15K miles, or 16.7K miles for a flight at a reasonable time:
Or 13.5K United miles for Club cardholders:
Of course, anyone mileage savvy knows that you also have to look at partner airlines.
Skyteam carriers Virgin Atlantic and Air France Flying Blue have Delta flights between Cleveland and NYC for just 7.5K miles or 5.5K miles respectively, however Delta blocks all domestic partner award space within 3 weeks of the flight.
I confirmed that was still the case on the Virgin site and ruled out Delta:
Star Alliance carrier Air Canada charges just 6,000 miles+$34 to fly on United, but United only releases a limited subset of flights to partners, so the only option there was for a 6am flight.
Same goes for Lifemiles at 6.5K miles+$15.
OneWorld carrier BA had the AA flights available in first class for 24K Avios+$5.60. That’s certainly better than 24K in coach with AA miles, especially considering that it’s much easier to obtain Avios from bank point transfers and that there are often 30% transfer bonuses.
Qatar would be able to book this for 20K Avios+$10, but would have to be booked over the phone.
Qantas would be able to book this for 18.4K Miles.
And finally, there’s Alaska. In a few days from now, you’ll be able to transfer AMEX points to Hawaiian and from Hawaiian to Alaska at a 1:1 ratio.
They wanted just 9K miles+$19 in first class, so this was an easy choice:
For the return flight, AA wanted just 8.5K or 9.5K miles:
United wanted 15K miles:
Or 13.5K United miles for Club cardholders:
BA wanted 12K Avios, though Qatar would have been 9.5K Avios over the phone, Qantas would have been 8K miles, and Etihad would have been 6,043 miles:
Air Canada was just 6K miles, but only had the 8:29pm flight available:
And Alaska wanted just 4.5K miles for coach:
Thanks to AA status, I booked AA4366 for 4.5K miles, got upgraded to first class, and even had an empty seat next to me. And thus began the showdown at the gate.
What are your favorite uses of miles?
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29 Comments On "Before You Book That Award Ticket, Be Sure To Shop Around; How I Booked My Flight To NYC Last Week"
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for a mileage geek its fun but for avg joe thats a lot of effort for a 1 hr flight
It’s actually not much effort at all, can pull it off in a few minutes once you’re used to it.
True, but how many hours does it take to get “used to it”?
Only DD followers know that miles are their own currency
😀
Nice post.
Thanks!
This is a master class in the art of travel hacking and understanding the importance of partnerships. The only part I didn’t understand is why your AA status helped you get upgraded to first class when you booked with Alaska miles? I thought that if you book with miles there is no way to swap out the frequent flyer number on the reservation like you can with revenue fares?
Also, it’s stuff like this that makes me jealous of people who live in NY 🙂 You have viable options with all the major carriers. I usually fly out of BWI and only UA and WN make sense on most routes.
once booked add your status thru finair
Can’t edit Alaska PNR through Finnair.
OK, guess I have to write a part 3.
If you do end up writing a full article on this, please drop a link to it here
The downside is- now that Alaska miles are going to become easy to obtain, due to the Amex–> Hawaiian-> Alaska route, everyone is going to find out and hit this hard, and the 4500 rate is going to get devalued sooner than many of us will be to able to use the big stash of miles we just transferred for the 20% bonus….
Could be.
Earn and burn em!
Ha! I transferred 400,000 MR for 480,000 Hawaiian…. that’s a LOT of short-haul flights at 4,500 apiece 🙂
The truth is, I figured that the AMEX-Hawaiian transfer option would go away at the same time as 1:1 Hawaiian->Alaska became available. This window of time where it’s possible to go straight from AMEX-> Alaska at the same time I think is going to hurt us in the end- it’s too easy.
Agreed. This all fell in place very quickly.
I really enjoyed this post! Well done!
Thanks!
Great post. Easy to read and understand and follow. I have been doing the mini version of this comparing between just aa, United and ba where it makes sense. I feel I need a cheat sheet to look up which ones to check for which routes from sna and lax area.
Thanks!
Excellent post broken down clearly. Was fun to read!! Kind of felt like I was with you on the journey while reading it. Thanks Dan!!
Glad you enjoyed!
Do you have miles sitting in all those different airlines’ mileage accounts? Or do you only transfer the points in once you determine which flight you want to take? The other night I tried to look at Virgin Atlantic reward availability but it didn’t let me, maybe because I don’t yet have a VA freq flyer acct. Will simply having the account with no miles within it allow one to see reward availability? Thanks for the advice.
You can search Virgin with no miles. I would transfer miles on demand if that was the best option.
Thanks
virgin now often directs to their new website where you have to login to search
Still don’t need miles.
Thanks for a quick, but in depth post. You showed all the airline options and their repsective booking options very clearly.
Greatly appreciated. I love such posts
Pleasure!