Airlines love nothing more than passing the buck.
I have flown on American when the pilot says the flight is cancelled due to mechanical reasons, only to have American later claim it was due to weather reasons. That makes them instantly absolved of all liability to compensate passengers for their expenses. Luckily I recorded their employees telling me that it was cancelled for mechanical reasons and American did wind up covering our overnight expenses.
Southwest has had poor operational performance this year, but they have completely melted down over the past few days.
- On Saturday, Southwest cancelled 24% of their flights and delayed another 36% of their flights.
- Yesterday, Southwest cancelled 30% of their flights and delayed another 33% of their flights.
- So far today, Southwest cancelled 10% of their flights and delayed another 39% of their flights.
That may not rise to the level of Spirit’s operation meltdowns, but it’s bad. In fact, it seems like every major US carrier has suffered operational and call center meltdowns over the past year, besides for United. Staffing issues have been a major problem in the aviation industry, as it has been across the country this year.
So what happened with Southwest this weekend?
Southwest told USAToday that Air Traffic Control issues and weather were to blame.
The FAA didn’t take kindly to that and they took the unusual move of responding to that by saying Southwest’s problems were not due to Air Traffic Control issues,
Some airlines continue to experience scheduling challenges due to aircraft and crews being out of place. (2/2)
— The FAA ✈️ (@FAANews) October 10, 2021
Air traffic control real-time status is always available for the public.
Look any time. Go to the source and check it out yourself: https://t.co/2JqKd70wIr
— The FAA ✈️ (@FAANews) October 11, 2021
Was it weather? And if it was, why did no other airlines experience anything close to Southwest’s meltdown?
Texas based American Airlines and Southwest Airlines have been facing protests and lawsuits due to newly released deadlines for employees to be fully vaccinated within the coming months.
On Friday, Southwest’s pilot union announced that it was suing the airline over the vaccine mandate. However, they deny any organized action against the airline. Of course organized action would be illegal, so that’s not something they would be admitting to anytime soon. Southwest also says that protesting employees calling in sick were not the cause of their operational issues.
What do you think is the cause of the meltdown? Were your travel plans disrupted by Southwest over the past several days?
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Vaccine mandates are ruining life
Enough said
YOU ARE JUST A NUT!
Persuasive I must say
Amen. And Jack below is the Germanic-inclined nut.
Vax mandate.
I know from some people on the inside.
Anything else is a lie.
Sounds great to me. Two can play the financial damage game.
It’s not hard to see that this is because of the vaccine mandates. Pilots can’t just walk out, but they can ‘sick out’. I hope the airline industry stops just blindly implementing whatever Biden’s agenda is, and starts treating pilots and passengers as rational human beings.
Step 1: claim you got corona
Step 2: refuse vaxx on grounds of antibodies
Step 3: tell Southwest to stick it (their vaxx in someone else who needs it)
Step 4: profit
My flight was canceled but I don’t care. I’m so happy that pilots are resisting the vaccine mandates and speaking out and standing up for americans freedoms! Pilots are the heroes we need right now. Vaccine mandates are a big deal. They will lead somewhere. this is how the government gains control of its people. resisting is how we fight vaccine mandates. fight for your freedoms. resist. do not comply. southwest is first. others will follow suit. democrats love using the term “our body, our choice” is when it comes to abortions. why does the same not apply to vaccines? please think for yourselves when it comes to this. why, in the midst of everything our government has screwed up in the last year, anyone would want to give the government control of our power (or anything else for that matter) is beyond me. covid is nothing more than a flu. albeit, perhaps slightly more deadly than the typical flu. but at the end of the day, nothing more than a flu. stay healthy, wash your hands and you will most likely be fine. given that you are not elderly and/or no underlying conditions – those in those categories should most definitely take precautions & strongly advise to get the vaccine. if you see democrats even dare try to mandate vaccines on children, mark my words, you will see certain states revolt in the streets and take out their guns against the government. joe biden & fauci will start a civil war over this if he tries to take this any further. elections have consequences. #letsgobrandon #fjb
You left out that bit about the Mossad and JFK…
HA! they also forgot to include tin foil caps. LOL
Best line I heard in while was dying of laughter. Thanks
just roll up your sleeve and take the darn shot already!
What about natural immunity? I had covid. I recently retested and still have a high antibody level. No medical need for me to vaccinate.
Hmmm that’s what my sister-in-law said until her 38 year old brother died of Covid last month and my young nephew found him in bed, passed away, after claiming the night before that after feeling like he’d recovered, he was suddenly having some labored breathing.
She went that week and got the shot. Seems it takes personal tragedy – what she thought was no big deal, ended up being a pretty big deal.
Why?
You are free to chose your employer and your employer can set up rules for your employment, as this is a free country right?
“democrats love using the term “our body, our choice” is when it comes to abortions. why does the same not apply to vaccines?”
Same applies in your direction right? Right now its your body your choice but for women its different right?
“f you see democrats even dare try to mandate vaccines on children, mark my words, you will see certain states revolt in the streets and take out their guns against the government.”
Weird, nobody complains when community colleges have vaccine mandates but for COVID its different right? I cant wait until the Top universities make COVID vaccines mandatory, wanna see how you gonna force Harvard/Yale/Princeton to change rules.
Vaccine mandates have happened since George Washington had one for the revolutionary army and smallpox. Everyone took it despite the 2-3% death rate of the vaccine itself, since it was better than the alternative.
Also, back in 1905, a pastor in MA decided to go against another smallpox vaccine mandate and the Supreme Court ruled against him, claiming that real liberty for all could not exist if people could act regardless of injury to others.
You are endangering those who are at risk. Get the vaccine, wear a mask indoors, live your life. This isn’t hard.
Good news! Those who were at risk are now vaccinated (or chose not to just like anyone else can), so they are no longer at risk!
Keep in mind that this is not the only way things are done. In Israel, showing a previous POSITIVE test result is practically as good as a vaccination. In the USA, you take a vaccine because you were instructed to do so.
People who would take almost every other vaccine are resisting this one because it came to the point where the science is taking vaccine mandates into account instead of vaccine mandates taking the science into account.
This argument can’t be made of the covid vaxx. It doesn’t provide immunity and doesn’t stop the spread
“Our Body our choice “… Is pregnancy contagious?
Been stuck in Texas Bc my return flights been cancelled 3 times. Send help!
Book travel on another airline?
I just might, but a normally $49 ticket one way is now $250… at the airport right now on my rebooked flight, hope it takes off. Last night they canceled my 720 rebooked flight…..at 720
Good luck!
Hotels and even fast food can quickly add up. Glad I was on Delta on Saturday. I couldn’t afford to stay where I was vacationing.
Any tips for getting cheap airfare?
Use miles 😀
Always check partner airlines.
Dan,
Do you have a good article(s) on using partner airlines?
Many.
One example:
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/check-united-saver-award-space-availability-partner-airlines-save-bundle-miles/
It’s bigger than vaccine mandates. That’s an excuse. No one wants to work anymore. Why should they if the government is doling out free money.
BINGO! I work in a hospital with agency people making 125 an hour and dont do a damn thing all day! One said, I dont care im AGENCY!
I have sympathy for southwest melting down, but DOJ should investigate companies that knowingly lie to consumers and heavy fines should follow
United Airlines implemented a vaccine mandate successfully. I think Southwest is having trouble only because it’s based in Texas where they’ve made vaccines a political issue when it’s really a public health issue. Covid is more than just the flu. I know so many that have passed away and even more that got terribly ill from it. I will feel safer flying when I know that the airline crews are vaccinated.
I agree that United had an easier time as they’re based in Chicago vs Dallas.
And they have most of their hubs in blue states instead of most of their hubs in red states like Southwest.
But I’m not sure how employees being vaccinated helps me feel safer as a passenger. How much do you interact with a flight attendant, pilot, or the ramp agent loading bags?
We are sitting in the same enclosed space on the aircraft often for hours at a time. There always seems to be some idiot sitting near me that refuses to wear their mask or wear it properly so the flight attendant has to keep coming by to interact with them. The flight attendants are interacting with people like that all day long. I believe that vaccines help prevent the spread of the virus, so personally I would like airline personnel to be vaccinated and I’m glad our government agrees.
a)Believing something doesn’t make it fact.
b)If you’re vaccinated, why are you afraid of anyone who has covid?
1)If you are vaccinated, you shouldn’t be worried about the non vaxxed.
2) Planes are not major vectors of virus transmission. They have HEPA filters, change the air every few minutes, and studies show they are as safe as being outdoos.
3)Here a rule in psychology.
If someone forces you to do something you are not sure about, you are naturally going to resist.
If the govt didn’t make the vaccines so political and instead gave everyone a choice, people who are unsure would actually get the vax on their own at some point.
I’d be much more concerned about the person coughing in my row or an adjacent row for the whole flight than I’d be about the flight attendants or pilots. And yet, airlines still don’t let people make a free date change when they’re not feeling good. The HEPA filters should be good for anyone on the plane that’s not close to me.
Seems more like COVID theatre to me.
Wow I was always a big fan of this site and Dan, but this anti-vax talk is horrible:
“But I’m not sure how employees being vaccinated helps me feel safer as a passenger. How much do you interact with a flight attendant, pilot, or the ramp agent loading bags?”
Besides that vaccines safe everybody’s lives, I deal with a flight attendant as much as I do with a fellow traveller. They are directly in your face when serving drinks and food. We can not only enforce such rules on customers.
And to be honest, those are private airlines, they have a vaccine mandate, you dont like it, you can leave for a “better work environment”. Nobody forces you to work for that airline.
Erm. Being skeptical of an employee vaccine mandate is not being anti-vax. I’m as pro-vax as it comes and my wife and I were vaccinated in March and helped hundreds of local people book appointments back then, but I fail to see how this will make flying safer. Certainly so for phone agents, ramp agents, and pilots, even if you want to argue about flight attendants. That being said, prolonged exposure is the problem, aka your seatmate, not the person handing you a Coke for 5 seconds.
I also think Delta’s approach of making non-vaccinated employees pay a health insurance surcharge is the correct way about this…but I’m open to debating both sides on that.
Aren’t flight attendants and especially pilots sitting next to each other for a prolonged period of time? They should try to keep each other safe as well.
Everyone should try to keep each other safe! The vaccine is a statistical no-brainer and is the best tool we have.
Does that mean it should be specifically mandated? Maybe, maybe not, it’s above my paygrade and my opinion doesn’t count for squat. But mandates make me uncomfortable. And I don’t follow the logic of why pilots or ramp agents need to be vaccinated any more than anyone else on the planet.
Whole Family had covid over pesach – besides the tests that we had to take – what did our insurance companies have to pay for exactly, that justifies paying an extra $200/month added to their premium? At most you can say that anyone with risk factors would have to pay higher premiums if not vaccinated, but no one else should have to. I am not taking the vaccine because my brother had an adverse reaction to it. He was hospitalized within an hour of taking shot #1 for 1 day and released. When I asked him to get me papers stating his adverse reaction for the vaccine, so he could be exempt from shot #2 and perhaps I could be exempt from shot #1, they refused. I know many, many people who took the vaccine without any issues, but there are some that simply cannot, and based on my experience, cannot be exempted.
They had to pay out of pocket for dozens of unvaccinated employees with long term hospital care. Those are hefty bills divided over the small population of unvaccinated employees.
Seems like a fair compromise to me.
Where do you draw the line then? Should smokers pay a higher premium? Should people who don’t go to the gym regularly pay a higher premium? Should people who have a BMI over a certain number have a higher premium? C’mon Dan (Man)!
Would you prefer the termination that every other airline is offering?
Picking the better of 2 bad ideas is never a good thing. There is Math involved in choosing whether to vaccinate or not. The ‘everyone who chooses not to vaccinate is evil’ philosophy itself is evil. If I said, everyone in the USA has to eat an apple, even that is bound to kill some people who are allergic to apples. The point of my original post was that if my brother had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine, and I have similar allergies, then I will avoid it. Should I (and others with valid reasons) be punished for that? There are many other valid rationales besides mine.
Who said it’s a good thing? A pandemic is not a good thing and there are uncomfortable choices to make.
It seems reasonable to me to offer an option to cover the actual added costs of being unvaccinated instead of forcing termination of a job.
Vaccines do not stop the spread. They may help keep someone from getting seriously I’ll, but they most certainly do not make you less likely to pass covid. That has always been the case. The flu vaccine just lessened symptoms. Don’t be a pawn..
People should feel free to do what they want to their own body. And it’s just that. Their own body and their own choice.
Dont believe the lies they try to convince you that the vaccines stop the spread. I’m sure we all know of dozens of cases of covid in those that are vaccinated. In fact, in my community, most people who have had covid in the most recent months are all vaccinated.
Dont sit there are repeat. Open your mind and your eyes just a little….
This!!
Airline change fees is what drives sick people to fly – whether Covid or otherwise. If change fees are eliminated that would vastly reduce any chance of catching anything while flying.
And vaccinating pilots? Baggage handlers? When have you ever been near these people? You’re more exposed to people in a grocery store.
This is a pathetic political play by the administration to drive fear and panic – because when people are afraid and panicked they will let govt do whatever it wants.
Vax stops the spread = lie of the century. Unfortunately they’ve convinced some of us… our guru Dan and his wife apparently also ;(
Nobody said it’s stops the spread. Many hoped it would do that, but that was just a hope.
They said it’s effective against several cases and death and it helps slow the spread, though you can still spread it.
These are all proven facts.
Even the CDC is clear about the fact that vaccines may only possibly prevent the spread, hence the constant encouragement to mask indoors even if you’re fully vaccinated.
There doesn’t seem to be undisputable data showing that being vaccinated will prevent spreading of the virus to other vaccinated individuals any more than natural immunity can.
Masks don’t stop the spread and neither does the vaccine. They both might make you feel more protected……
Being vaccinated doesn’t stop you from spreading covid anyway. everyone knows that by now.
Who is everyone? Most studies have showed a lower viral load and lower R0 when vaccinated.
But yes, it can still be spread. It’s just less likely. Just like it’s less likely to be hospitalized or die if you’re vaccinated.
This study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733
No, it didn’t.
Read the comments there.
This is their own interpretation.
Interpretation: Breakthrough Delta variant infections are associated with high viral loads, prolonged PCR positivity, and low levels of vaccine-induced neutralizing antibodies, explaining the transmission between the vaccinated people. Physical distancing measures remain critical to reduce SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant transmission.
OK?
Notice that all.of those who died were vaxxed… unvaxxed 2 persons both had mild cases.
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822#html_fulltext
LOL. Are you serious?
You cant prove anything from a sample of 42 people with a whopping census of 3 unvaccinated people.
If you want real world data, look no further than Israel’s COVID dashboard, which neatly outlines the actual severe and fatal case statistics across millions of people, not a cherry picked case of 42 people.
https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general
You mean after the initial suppressed immunity period when you are more likely to get covid like so mo many I know did, or after it wears off after a period so you can keep topping off with a regular booster? Will you be signing up people to get their booster each year/quarter? Since you want to outcast all doctors who don’t tow the cdc who potus md bs playbook, like my 2 dr friends who both quietly told me they will not get vaxxed after working with covid patients all year… maybe listen to Joe Rogan interview with Alex Berenson this past week, very telling and a good intro for someone like you who seems have been co-opted by the one sided vaxx brainwashing machine.
just because someone in your family history once worked with vaccines and you seem to know some of the people who were the tragic outliers with no seeming health or age high factors that still got seriously ill or died, doesn’t mean if you call something a vaccine it automatically becomes a no brainer for all. and why do you keep censoring me?
You have never been censored, despite spewing an endless stream of drivel. Would you like to be censored?
2 Dr. friends? Amazing! Clearly the 97% of vaccinated Drs are just in it for the big pharma money.
97% of doctors. another lie being repeated. sorry i dont have the official snopesTM link handy to disprove it
I have posted lots of “drivel” as you call it that was not posted on this topic over past couple of days so I asserted that I was censored. Yes i spend a lot of time on your site and I actually value(d) your takes on most things including covid as stable informed and even handed as I weighed my personal decision for me and my family, up until a certain point. And I know others probably do as well. And I am angry and perhaps incoherent as a result. So much damage has been done to my family and the world by all this covid response crap. whatever you think of the vaccine and masks and all that for yourself is one thing. The mandating is evil on so many levels. Shocked it wasn’t/isn’t a red line for more decent people. Disappointed on your super parve soft serve stance even at this point to the mandates. Our supposedly duly elected president says his “patience is wearing thin” and he will “protect vaccinated workers from the unvaccinated” and repeats the lie that this is a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”. all libelous lies. and all you muster is you are not sure mandates are wrong or right. not sure? it is a heinous position to take at this stage. I lost tons of respect for you. If we are not awake now and standing up against all this BS, regardless of your opinion on the vaccine efficacy …Evil squarely upon us. End of drivel
I searched your IP and there was nothing censored that I see. As long as there aren’t personal attacks it typically doesn’t get moderated.
Not sure what you want me to say. I’m pro vaccines. I’m anti government mandates, but am OK with private businesses deciding what exactly to do with their employees. I’ve been perfectly clear about that. That has made people on both sides unhappy with me, but I can live with that.
I’m happy to let people have honest debates on the topic and am thrilled with the high level of discourse and debate found on DDF. I do get annoyed about comments left here with truly unsubstantiated drivel, like pilots dropping dead in flight or vaccinated people having worse outcomes.
Why is organized action illegal?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Labor_Act
I think people ought to get vaccines but the ultimatums and threating peoples jobs and careers if they don’t comply is sickening. It sets a terrible precedent. I think Delta did it correctly by assessing a surcharge on the health insurance plan.
Another risk with issuing ultimatums is when your hand is called to see if you’re bluffing or if there is weight behind your words. Personally having gotten the vaccine the only side effect I notice is better 5g reception. But I can emphasize with other people’s (especially younger and healthier) apprehension. Originally we were told that the vaccine would prevent catching covid. Now it’s that it will weaken the symptoms. Yet, we’re seeing data from Israel of people being hospitalized even after getting 3 shots from pfizer. Clearly pfizer is not 97% effective as it was sold to us earlier this year.
But back to the terrible precedent. We live in a world where boundaries keep getting pushed. Again I think people ought to get the vaccine but it should be a free choice. Forcing people to creates a very slippery slope where legislators or employers can start mandating other “health” objectives and threaten your families livelihood. Perhaps my fear is unfounded. Time will tell.
“forced”???
Your free to find another job, are you not?
No forced is correct. If you’ve had a career there for 15 or 25 years and a new CEO comes in and changes the culture, that’s forced.
To be more clear have you left jobs on principle? I have. It’s easier said than done.
100% you got it, its a called a free market!
Dont like your employer, feel free to leave.
Not if the government forces all employees in you’re profession/industry to vaccinate.
“ Your free to find another job, are you not?”
Not really when every employer with over 100 employees is forced by the government to mandate vaccines.
The Declaration of Independence calls for ‘life, liberty and pursuit of happiness’ – the right to work is the third one there. The federal government is doing an end-run around the constitutional process by pushing vaccine mandates through OSHA and direct intimidation of companies (see press conferences Biden did with airline CEOs) to make you do what they want by abrogating your fundamental rights.
This is the sort of thing that precipitated the original American revolution.
It’s not “your,” it’s “you’re,” as in you are…
EX You are going to have a VERY long day ahead of you. lololololololo
I think employers should start making demands of their employees and prospective hires to see how far they can stretch. How about HIV tests to keep other employees safe? How about the madrassa starts instituting virginity checks? Let’s see, how about forcing all employees to take a medication that isn’t proven safe for pregnancy?
Boy Anon you are one, really MESSED UP INDIVIDUAL!
Did you confuse me for a Democrat, Jacky? Worry not, I just play one in the comments.
What happens when the medical world does this. Are they going to admit the mandate will kill people, or just add it as a COVID death?
Housing is gone up like crazy gas as well, 90 percent of industries have staff and supply shortages with them raising their prices. Now airlines what’s next because of COVID the has a 009 mortality rate
Any chance you have an education higher than a GED?
Troll
It’s not about freedom, it is a public health issue.
When they close the beach because of an oil spill, are you going to sue someone?
Yes, you won’t likely get COVID from the pilot. But someone might. And that someone might give it to someone else. And so on. It’s not about you and your rights.
Its a PUBLIC HEALTH issue.
When the law requires you to wear seatbelts, are you going to sue someone?
When they require you to take antibiotics for multi-drug-resistant TB, are you going to sue someone?
Wash your hands preparing food in the restaurant? Oh, that soap makes my skin peel. Those regulators, what do they know?
Stop at red lights?
Dump garbage in the sea?
Spew chemicals into the air?
Dayenu
I agree it’s a public health issue but working without a vax was seemingly safe enough the last year and a half
I like the analogy to seatbelts. Of course, to get to that point you have to comply with a lot of TSA rules. Even some of the pilots have problems getting past those checkpoints, if they’re drunk or carrying.
I don’t think the airlines can have it both ways. They spent all this money on advertising, about how much cleaning they do before flights and how their air filtration system is better than the next plane’s. Now, if the people up front or in the galley cough, is everyone happy that none of those air particles are going to be inhaled by a 70-year-old cancer survivor?
If it was really a public health issue:
– Antibodies from having had covid would count as if you’re vaccinated.
– Masks would be “medical grade” only, since cloth masks do next to nothing.
– Children wouldn’t be wearing masks or being readied for vaccines since a statistically miniscule percentage of children have died of covid.
– The sick pilot with symptoms will be home sick. He won’t be infecting anyone on the flight.
Very well said!!
True about masks. Remember when NYC was handing out tickets to Orthodox Jews and masks to everyone else, an Bill DeBlasio was running around with those “gator masks”, which the CDC said actually said is worse than no mask (when only one layer)?
Studies show that vaccination does not prevent the spread of Covid, only protects the vaccinated from hospitalization and death (which is amazing and super important obviously)
But that means that people will STILL GET COVID whether we vaccinate more people or not. Look at Israel. The vaccinated are protected!
The unvaccinated are not endangering the vaccinated. Stop panicking and let’s get back to living our lives.
What studies? Do you actually read the medical literature or just retweet social media propaganda? When did the world stop interpreting data critically and start relying on stupidity? You’re going to kill us all.
Uh… this one? Did you?
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822#html_fulltext
LOL. Are you serious?
You cant prove anything from a sample of 42 people with a whopping census of 3 unvaccinated people.
If you want real world data, look no further than Israel’s COVID dashboard, which neatly outlines the actual severe and fatal case statistics across millions of people, not a cherry picked case of 42 people.
https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general
It’s not about a public health issue here, it’s about freedom.
How’s it if they’d close all beaches because there were some which had an oil spill?
If the pilot has COVID because he wasn’t vaccinated, he will not give it over to someone who chose to vaccinate, or maybe he will, but that would bring on the question as to why the reason the pilot got infected was due to him not having being vaccinated?
There is no natural immunity to car accidents.
If two soaps were equally effective and regulators mandated washing with the one which made your skin peel after you already washed with the other one, that would be slightly problematic.
If you needed to stop moving in your house when the light on the corner turns red, that would be an issue. Auto safety wouldn’t make too strong an argument there.
Dump garbage in your body (when not necessary).
Spew chemicals in to your body (when not necessary).
Dei Deiyenu!
No Saul, if IS a public health issue. Your non sensical responses are testament to the need for those in the know to protect the ignorant. It’s not your fault you’re ignorant. We’ll take care of you.
On the one hand Democrats love covid because it gives them more leeway with mail in ballots but on the other hand, they are the ones that will lose if covid isn’t resolved as they are in power now, just like trump lost. Love to see them all over the place like this!! And would love even more if they lose big! Thanks for reading!
I mean, I guess we can figure out who didn’t get the vaccines yet… makes the weeding out process a lot easier and can’t keep pinning it on the lower socioeconomic population.
My wife got stuck last night on the last Southwest flight out of Oakland. They were delayed leaving because a flight attendant was late getting there on a flight from Ontario. By the time she arrived, the pilot was required to go home due to the mandatory rest rules. Southwest put her up in a hotel for 3 hours sleep. They told her the company line: Weather in the Southeast and tower problems.
“Stuck” on Sanibel Island. Received an email 4am that my flight was canceled and nothing available today. Luckily they were s me to extend my reservation at The Sundial. Rebooked for tomorrow with my fingers crossed, they still took close to 50k points from me for rebooking to what is deemed a more expensive flight, I’m hoping they can fix that.
What a wonderful place to be stuck on!!
Enjoy!
Once or twice a week Dan brings us news about El Al. But he and commenters are curiously silent about how that airline handles this issue. I found this, from last February:
In a sign that we one day might return to normalcy, El Al Israel Airlines has announced that all employees that come into contact with passengers have been vaccinated, Israel Hayom reported Friday.
With this announcement, El Al has made history for being the world’s first airline to have all of its relevant staff, including attendants, security personnel, pilots, and other service personnel, inoculated against the virus.
In a statement, El Al’s local competitor, Israir, said 95% of its pilots had had received the dose of the vaccine.
Pretty sure I mentioned it earlier this year, but that has more to do with Israel’s successful vaccination campaign than the airline.
And this has more to do with whether Biden’s vaccination campaign will be successful. 30% of Southwest’s profits come from federal passengers. That’s strong leverage to encourage compliance. No one forced El Al to brag about its success.
very good points Bob
“employees that come into contact with passengers”
Not the baggage handlers and cleaners, etc
Southwest was correct. There was Air Traffic Control problems because they stubbornly refuse to communicate with a plane that has no pilot. And weather is a factor because the airline is in a total fog. (And therefore, the passengers.)
LOL
Dan, from where do you ge5 you4 information. Surely not from real scientists not bought out by the medical conglomerate and government. The vaccinated have a much bigger viral loud…they measured 251 times in the noses, from many prominent scientists and doctors bein* censored. Do you read dr. Robert Malone and dr. Peter me coullough and dr. Selenio for sure cnn and nbc and the rest are not giving you the current information. I’d feel safer with the place full of non vaccinated people!
Can we stop with the fake news? Good grief already. Proven nonsense propaganda bites.
If we’re listening to quacks like Zelenko, then we’ll all be dead in a year anyway. Enjoy living in a world like that.
I mean Southwest has their homebase in Dallas and there has been storms all around this weekend…
And they only affected Southwest planes and not American planes, with a much larger Dallas base?
Check this out:
https://rumble.com/vnlwi9-sources-vaxxed-delta-pilot-dies-in-flight-emergency-landing-required.html
Can we stop with the fake news?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/delta-pilot-die-covid-19-vaccination/
How do you know if SNOPES.com is truth? Do you who is behind SNOPES.com?
Southwest is so screwed up, i will avoid ever flying them again. Get vaccinated!