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Re: Amex Financial Review
« Reply #200 on: August 30, 2010, 04:17:53 PM »
true they lose on that, BUT its guaranteed money as well because they charge the merchants a %
They make maybe 1% profit on a normal transaction after costs plus buying Starpoints, but can make 30% APR.
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Re: Amex Financial Review
« Reply #201 on: August 31, 2010, 10:10:21 AM »
When you prepay on a cc, are you able to do so online? or do you have to send a check?

Does it differ depending on if its amex or citi?

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Re: Amex Financial Review
« Reply #202 on: August 31, 2010, 11:35:20 AM »
I prepaid online through my bank account

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Re: Amex Financial Review
« Reply #203 on: August 31, 2010, 11:36:01 AM »
I think the safest thing is to pay with your bank account the same day you make the charge so that its not a prepayment.
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Re: Amex Financial Review
« Reply #204 on: August 31, 2010, 11:56:22 AM »
I think the safest thing is to pay with your bank account the same day you make the charge so that its not a prepayment.

I need to prepay though. Im trying to make a $1030 charge on a card that has a $1000 limit. I want to prepay exactly $1030 and then make the charge, which would put me back at zero.

I prepaid online through my bank account

Is that done like a normal bill pay? Meaning you initiate the payment from your bank as a bill pay rather than initiating the payment by logging into amex.com or citicard?

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Re: Amex Financial Review
« Reply #205 on: August 31, 2010, 12:02:12 PM »
Is that done like a normal bill pay? Meaning you initiate the payment from your bank as a bill pay rather than initiating the payment by logging into amex.com or citicard?
Correct
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Re: Amex Financial Review
« Reply #206 on: August 31, 2010, 01:30:29 PM »
Is there a reason to billpay through your bank instead of the cc website (other than the fact that all your bills can be done in one log-in/session)?

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Re: Amex Financial Review
« Reply #207 on: August 31, 2010, 01:41:58 PM »
Is there a reason to billpay through your bank instead of the cc website (other than the fact that all your bills can be done in one log-in/session)?
The cc website won't let you prepay.
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Re: Amex Financial Review
« Reply #208 on: August 31, 2010, 01:46:35 PM »
anyone know if amex can fr an au?  and if you're only using the au card to purchase, can they fr the main card as well?

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Re: Amex Financial Review
« Reply #209 on: August 31, 2010, 01:52:10 PM »
can amex can fr an au? 
No
and if you're only using the au card to purchase, can they fr the main card as well?
Of course
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amex financial review for buying gc
« Reply #210 on: October 13, 2010, 03:35:58 PM »
I was approved for the business gold charge card and i tried to buy 4 $1000 gift cards and i saw that after a day and half that my balance was at $0.00. So i called amex and they told me the purchase was denied and that all my three accounts with them are on a freeze. And then the lady started doing a financial review on me. Anyway i faxed in my paper work hopefully all goes well! It is not just coins which can cause a red flag!!

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Re: amex financial review for buying gc
« Reply #211 on: October 13, 2010, 11:14:04 PM »
Same thing happened to me and I only bought 1 $1000 gift card.

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Re: amex financial review for buying gc
« Reply #212 on: October 13, 2010, 11:15:27 PM »
My purchase was approved and it was almost 2 months ago - my FR just happened.

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Re: amex financial review for buying gc
« Reply #213 on: October 14, 2010, 04:34:56 AM »
so then how do you know it was the gift card that triggered it?

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Re: amex financial review for buying gc
« Reply #214 on: October 14, 2010, 10:39:25 AM »
so then how do you know it was the gift card that triggered it?

It happened to both myself and my husband and those were the only out of the ordinary purchases.  The rep pretty much confirmed it.

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Re: amex financial review for buying gc
« Reply #215 on: October 14, 2010, 02:42:26 PM »
@Devorah
Did everything turn out ok with the FR?

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Re: amex financial review for buying gc
« Reply #216 on: October 14, 2010, 08:26:49 PM »
@Devorah
Did everything turn out ok with the FR?
Just sent in the 4506T - waiting to hear from them.

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Re: amex financial review for buying gc
« Reply #217 on: October 15, 2010, 12:29:42 PM »
What are they looking for when they do an FR?  And what information do they ask for?  If you know you did something dumb is there a way to fudge it to look better?  I have never been FRed as I'm new to all this, but the whole idea freaks me out.

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Re: amex financial review for buying gc
« Reply #218 on: October 15, 2010, 12:39:02 PM »
What are they looking for when they do an FR?  And what information do they ask for?  If you know you did something dumb is there a way to fudge it to look better?  I have never been FRed as I'm new to all this, but the whole idea freaks me out.

They want to know that you actually make the money you said you make. They ask for Tax returns / W2's, 1099's / bank statements showing how much money goes in and out.If you did something dumb and they come after you, fess up with them, show them how much money you (or your household) DO make, and hope for the best. There's nothing to get freaked out about. Max, they will close you down or lower your CL.

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Re: amex financial review for buying gc
« Reply #219 on: October 15, 2010, 12:54:15 PM »
There's nothing to get freaked out about. Max, they will close you down or lower your CL.

That's enough to freak some people out.

I went from 9 cards with a CL of over 90k to 1 card with a CL of ~30k.

I was able to reshuffle my credit lines and I moved some of the credit to one card and closed all the others, then sent the financial/tax documents. Now that they don't allow that online people won't be able to do that.
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