Which Miles To Use To Fly To Hawaii?

Can I book a one way tlv-phl- and then on to hnl?

@sky121:
United officially only gives a free stopover and open jaws on a round-trip ticket.
American allows a stopover at the North American gateway city even on one-ways.

Either way, it will need to be booked over the phone.

@dan
cant you do aa online by doing it as a multi city?

@bochur:
It can work on aa.com and united.com, though often it doesn’t price it right or gives an error.
And of course you can’t book El Al on aa.com-need to call.

@Dan:

Thanks!

I am coming from NY and either using SPG Transfer or my Chase Sapphire.
1) I was looking to fly end of Dec around X-Mas but it looks like most flights for points reduced is booked. Any way to get around that?
2) What airport do most people fly into? I have never been to Hawaii.

Dan,

Thanks for the great post!

Some questions:

If i’m flying one way on Elal using AA miles from TLV to LAX can I get a free flight to Hawaii?

Also, Did you say Alaska is partners with BA? I know you could use AA miles on Alaska but can you use BA Avios to book on Alaska? If yes, how?

@Dan:
1. Flight availability changes daily and opens up as it gets closer to the flight.
For some tips on how to piece together availability even when the website doesn’t show anything: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7249
2. There are tons of airports on many different islands, each of which are very different from the next. You really have to do research beforehand to know which would fit you best! From the mainland you can fly into:
Honolulu, Oahu: HNL
Maui: OGG
Kauai: LIH
Kona, Big Island of Hawaii: KOA
Hilo, Big Island of Hawaii: ITO
Then there are secondary airports on those islands and other smaller islands you can fly to like Molokai and Lanai.
More info here: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/18475

@steve:
1. Yes.
2. Yes. You need to call them to book, but you can search availability on aa.com before calling.

Just to clarify if I am flying a roundtrip to TLV I can only get to Hawaii if I didn’t use a stopover in Europe. Is that correct?

@sky121:
You can do an open jaw in Europe (fly into Paris, leave from London, etc) and a stopover in NYC, and then fly onto HI later on.

@Dan: Interesting. So it would have to be an open Jaw in Europe in order to use home as a stopover. Kinda narrows down some options there.
Last q! 🙂 If I am flying using BA miles on BA metal to London can I add an AA segment on the way home?

@sky121:
I’ve actually had success adding a 2nd stopover while in middle of flying an itinerary, but officially they won’t do that.

There are never any stopovers or free segments when using BA miles, every segment is a separate charge.

Dan,

One follow up question:

Is it the same amount of BA Avios to book a flight on Alaska as it would be to book the same flight on AA (using BA Avios) ?

@steve:
Yes.

Thanks Dan for this timely post. I discovered using this chart: https://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps/mileageplus/awards/travel/awardTravel.aspx that for my upcoming trip mileage trip from New York to Amsterdam. I could save 2,500 miles per passenger by adding on a segment to any island in the Carribean.

To note, the savings is only in economy. Business Class costs more from Europe to the Carribean than to US48. This was perfect for me because my return to NY is in economy, while my overnight outbound is in (lie-flat) Business Class.

Total Cost per ticket was 77,500 miles (instead of 80,000)+ $40.92 per ticket. The real bonus is that I now have one way covered to Peurto Rico for Spring Break!

Can I book a ticket from NYC to Hawaii on AA with a “stop-over” in LAX for a few days?

Dan
I am sorry but I have no idea what you are talking about when flying to hawaii for free.
Can you please explain clearly what flights I am booking.
If JFK is a stop over where am I beginning and ending the flights?

Didn’t NYC to Hawaii used to be 35K? Is it 25K b/c each leg is a separate cost? If so, what is the ideal stop?

Thanks Dan.

My question was using British Airways Miles/ Avios.

DAN – I thought the free stopover with AA can only be AA flights. You can book hawaiian air?? I.e. paris-jfk on AA and jfk-hnl on hawaiian??

@Freddie:
Congrats!
A negative 2,500 mile flight to Puerto Rico, that’s the way to do it!

@AA+:
On United this is definitely possible, I think on AA that only works on international itineraries.

@Gay:
For example from Tel Aviv to Honolulu with a stopover in JFK.

@Miles:
Every leg is a separate cost.
It is 50K BA Avios to fly JFK to Hawaii via Los Angeles for example.

@joseph:
It’s good for any airline.

What’s the best aa sign up offer?

Dan, when you say 80K, or 17.5K, which points currency are you referring to? Are they all equal?
For example, if I have 60K Skymiles and 20K Starwoods, can I assume that I have the 80K you’re referring to?

Can this be done with international stops as well, for example JFK-London-TLV as JFK-London first leg then a stay of a few months in London after which the second leg London-TLV with a stay in Israel and then reverse with another few months in London? What is the best way to do this for the least miles?

With United when you say I have a year to complete the ticket is it a year from the ticketing or from the first flight? And if it was reissued on a free change prior to 21 days in advance does that extend it?

dan, i have some questions about a hawaii itinerary im about to book but i dont want to post them all here (long email). is there a way to email you?

is there an identical chart to book a ticket to TLV from NYC?
i need to book a round trip ticket and dont know which miles to use for best value

I called Korean Airlines today – it is 35k miles to Hawaii, not 30k miles.

Also, you should be aware that regardless of whether you book a 1 way or round trip ticket, it is 35k miles. I wanted to transfer ultimate rewards points to Korean Air and book a 1 way ticket to Kona on Hawaiian, but it’s not worth blowing 35k ultimate rewards points for that.

Hi- I just saw this & was wondering about a total different trip I booked using AA MILES.

JFK to YVR (Vancouver)both Business class – 50k rountrip & First class 65k roundtrip.

Is there anything I could have done or still do (flying in August) similar to what you decribe here for a third leg free on the return from Israel going JFK to Hawaii?

Is there any third leg to somewhere I can get free?

I would book it as there is no cost & then see If i can go within the year.

Thanks for your help.

follow up ? Is it same class of original ticket & what if it is more points to your new destination – meaning can I get a free one way to israel on my return from YVR TO jfk which is a base of 25k rountrip on cathay while elal is a base of 90 k rountrip.

How does it all work?

I thinkI got this now – you need to be exiting the north america (USA (including Alaska and Hawaii), Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean) & then on the way back you get a free stopover say back in your US major airport & then bam you have a free one way to any where else in this North America continent.

You have to book the trip the first 2 legs as one way awards – right?

also if you do it business class – do you get the free last leg in the same class?

thanks.

@newbie:
American requires that the stopover be in North America, but that should work with most other airlines.

@la:
YMMV.

@robbie:
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums

@steven:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/10371
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/15417

@Pyrate Baruch:
Incorrect, a nonstop Hawaiian flight like JFK-HNL-JFK is 30K. If you connect then it may be more.

@IH:
Every airline has different policies.
For United there are no free stopovers within the US49+Canada but there are for everything else.

The last leg is in the same class.

not sure about your answer – I did aa points to vancouver with cathay pacific – is there anything I am leaving on the table??

but this was actually a learning experience – I viewed the cathay trip in first class for 65k as a no brainer for a ticket that runs economy over $650-

However now I realize it is way better to use 90k points to Israel as that effectively gets you to Israel & one leg of a major trip = if you subtract the 22.5 for one way hawaii- the jfk israel trip is only 67.5.

I do want to experience cathay first class though 🙂

@IH:
Sure, you could have gone to awesome Hong Kong and Vancouver and back to Vancouver all in Cathay First for just 70K more 😀

Or you could have gone to South America or Europe in First and stopped over in NYC and then to Vancouver for 125K in first.

But no stopovers on just a domestic ticket.

I like the Israel Hawaii thing – next time its a business class from JFK to TLV for 135k & then a free one way from jfk to hawaii 🙂

@Pyrate Baruch:
Incorrect, a nonstop Hawaiian flight like JFK-HNL-JFK is 30K. If you connect then it may be more.

Dan – I hear you, but I called Korean Airlines today and spoke with two people. They both told me the same thing – 35k miles from JFK to KOA (Kona – Big Island) regardless of whether you fly 1 way or non stop. Also, I was poking around on the Korean Airlines website but didn’t see any way to book this fare online. If you are aware of a way to book it online, please let me know.

Right now I have enough Hawaiian miles for 3 one way coach tickets and was looking for a way to book 1 more ticket on Hawaiian without paying $ for it. The nice thing about Hawaiian is that 40k miles gets you a rt non-stop flight from JFK to Honolulu (and a connecting flight to any other island).

Thanks.

PB

@Pyrate Baruch:
Lol…you find me a nonstop from JFK to KOA and I’ll give you $1 million cash. There’s a reason I said JFK-HNL.

You need to call to book Alaska/Hawaiian awards with Korean.

Dan – You owe me a cool million – I’m chartering you a non-stop flight from JFK to KOA. :O)

As for the other comment – Korean won’t book me a 1 way ticket on Hawaiian – or rather, they will but will charge me the 35k miles for the rt ticket – so the cost would be 35k miles for a 1 way ticket from JFK to KOA. I just checked Alaska Airlines but they are showing no availability online for anything besides American First Class/Business Class at something like 95k miles. I have about 260k American miles right now and on American they want 90k rt pp in coach – not sure why, but maybe they haven’t opened up the availability yet for next year.

Thanks.

PB

@Pyrate Baruch:
Har, har. Obviously I’m referring to a bookable Hawaiian or Alaskan commercial flight.
Mind you that there is no nonstop commercial service from the east coast to any outer Hawaiian islands.

Yes, Korean only allows round-trips. Same goes for lots of other airlines like Delta or USAirways, though you can use Flying Blue or United miles to fly one-way on those airlines.

Availability opens up when they think they won’t sell out the plane, you’re looking too far ahead.

Dan:

I figured it out. I was able to book 3 tickets to KOA using my Hawaiian miles (applied for the BOFA Hawaiian Airlines CC with the 35k miles promotion for spending 3k). Unfortunately, my wife didn’t receive the 35k and only received 10k miles (was approved only for the lower tier card and not the signature Visa). After all that, I had enough miles on Hawaiian for 3 one way tickets to Kona from JFK – 17.5k miles per person in coach. I was then able to book the same Hawaiian flight for the 4th person on Hawaiian through AA – at a cost of 22.5k miles.

Now I have to decide whether to fly back using my United or AA miles (on either AA or Hawaiian).

Hawaiian happens to be my favorite airline – they treat you really well and the Hawaiian miles program is great. Also, they are one of the few that fly direct to Honolulu, don’t charge more for that direct route, and have unrestricted availability through miles.

And now, as I’m sure you know, there is Falafel in Paradise in Kona. :O)

By the way, I forgot to mention, I have been to the Big Island 3x already. I can do a very nice comprehensive review of different places to visit with GPS Coordinates. Please let me know if you would like me to post that.

How does one book tickets on korean to hawaii it seems like they are 75k in business

@Pyrate Baruch:
Absolutely, http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1646

@dave:

Call Korean.

do i need to transfer my points to korean first? I have an account but no miles in it

@Dan:
I thought the open jaw has to be at the origin or destination. So it would seem that this itinerary would be allowed. Does this make sense to you Dan? Whose miles would I use? Thanks
TLV – JFK stopover – HNL
Return
HNL – LON open jaw
FR or BRU – TLV

Can I book a one way lih-tlv and take the stop over and stay in jfk? How does one go abut doing this? Thanks for all your help

Looking to book a trip for my family to Hawaii this summer. Have a number of UR points and looking at Korean airlines. As they do Hawaiian and Alaskan, those two airlines do not fly into Tampa, do the flights have to be on Hawaiian/Alaskan metal?

How do I go about booking a flight from JFK or EWR to TLV and then from TLV to JFKor EWR followed by a trip to LAX? This can be done online? Or do I need to call them? Please advise

Will this work with a one way ticket from talc to JFK using af miles direct on delta? Will I be able to add a leg?

Hi,
I’ve got 175k UR points and 97k BA Avios and want to fly from BWI-TLV from 7/1-7/15 +/- 4 days. What is the most economical flight choice? Or, should I sell these points and pay cash for the flights(~$3100)?

Thanks for your help.

Trying to book a flt to Hawaii with a possible stop over in LA at least one way around 6/19-6/22 What are your suggestions using SPG, AA or chase Ink points?

Hi,

I am trying to book flight from TLV-EWR in May. I would like to do a “stopover” in EWR and continue to Hawaii 3 months later in August. How do I go about doing that? Additionally, I have United, Delta ans SPG points- which do you suggest I should use?

Many thanks!

@dan: I got a one way ticket to maui when you posted the deal. I need a one way ticket back to NYC. What is my best way? Which airlines? I have amex and spg miles but I don’t know how to use them. I am a total am haaretz with using mileage. Please help. So far we are walking home!

Is there an updated version to this?

We have miles on Capital one. Can we use these?